Santa Fe and Sorento: Same yet different

The latest editions of the Hyundai and Kia large SUVs are still twins, but far from identical – particularly on the inside.

the Hyundai Santa Fe (above) and Kia Sorento are classic examples of badge engineering.

 I CAN just imagine the discussions that took place between two design teams during development of the latest Hyundai Santa Fe and Kia Sorento medium-sized sport utilities.

Hyundai: “We’re typically regarded as the more luxurious marque, so we want our interior to reflect that.”

Kia: “We’re typically regarded as the sportier and more youthful brand, so our interior should reflect that.”

To all intents and purposes the Santa Fe and Sorento are the same vehicle. They’re built on the same platform, share the same powertrains, and their base exterior designs are the same. And although they are built at different South Korean assembly plants – the Hyundai at Ulsan and the Kia at Hwaseong  - they were no doubt also developed within sight of each other at the sprawling Hyundai Kia Automotive Group research and development centre at NamYang, in South Korea.

But the two vehicles are different, particularly when viewed from the inside. In there, it is the Sorento that indeed exudes the more youthful look, while it is the Santa Fe that is indeed the more grown-up and luxurious.

It’s called badge engineering – but it’s not as we used to know it.

The term had its origins in the days – as far back as 1917, in fact - when, in an effort to spread vehicle development costs, manufacturers would simply replace a car’s badging to create a new model that would be sold by a different brand. Such as swapping the badges of a Mazda 323 hatch and calling it a Ford Laser, for instance. Or in more recent times, changing the badges of an Opel Senator or Insignia and calling it a Holden Commodore.

The Sorento is larger, its wheelbase and body is longer, which translates to superior interior load space.

These days, in many instances the badge engineering has progressed far beyond simply swapping logos. Exterior styling between closely related vehicles can be considerably different, interiors can be unique, and ride and handling characteristics can be engineered to suit the particular needs of each particular vehicle.

Outstanding modern-day examples of all of this are the Santa Fe and the Sorento. And the best way to illustrate it all is to study their respective centre consoles – those areas that house all the control bearing surfaces ranging from infotainment to climate controls to gearshifts.

At the top level – the Santa Fe Limited and the Sorento Premium – the vehicles are powered by the same 2.2-litre turbocharged diesel mated to an eight-speed dual-clutch automatic operated via a shift-by-wire selector.

But the vehicles require different techniques to do the gear selecting. In the case of the Santa Fe the selector is a push-button thing with Reverse, Neutral and Drive in a top-to-bottom line, with Park (the electronic park brake) to one side. The Sorento’s selector is a rotary device with R, N and D in a left-to-right sequence with the P button in the centre.

The differences continue through the respective centre consoles. In the Kia, the audio and air conditioning controls are located between two air vents in the dash area immediately below a tablet-style infotainment screen, while in the Hyundai the controls are laid out in an orderly fashion slightly north of the gear selector.

There are numerous other differences in the centre console designs, and they all point towards the same design conclusion – that the Santa Fe should be seen as the more premium SUV, the Sorento as the more informal choice.

So which is best? Well, firstly I have to say that both interiors are very good, outstanding examples of how things can be the same but different. Study both interior designs closely and it is obvious that almost all the controls are essentially in shared locations, but their design and application are unique.

Hyundai’s interior is different to the Kia’s, not least when it comes to the gear selector design. This is the Santa Fe …. Rob didn’t like it.

…. here’s the Kia. And, again, a gear selector that failed to impress.

But as for the electronic gear selectors? Frankly, I don’t like either.  I much prefer the sense of motoring involvement that comes via the use of a gearstick. Isn’t that ironic? It doesn’t seem that long ago that we were all moaning about the demise of manual gearshifts. Now I find myself moaning about the demise of auto gearshifters.

Mind you, there’s no denying the intelligence of the electronic transmissions. Our home has a short sloping driveway that requires us to reverse out of. When I had the Santa Fe for road test I initially found I was unable to select reverse gear and move off, because the Hyundai refused to disengage the electric park brake. It took a little while for me to realise this would not happen until we had clicked the driver’s seat belt in place.

Of course the same intelligence is aboard the Sorento, because they share the same transmission. In fact with both vehicles you are not allowed to move off in Drive either unless you have the driver’s seatbelt clicked in place.

Other differences between the two? While it is obvious the base design is the same, there are major differences in nose and tail design. The Sorento is larger, its wheelbase (2815mm versus 2765mm) and body is longer, which translates to superior interior load space. I believe that, to the uninitiated, the Santa Fe and Sorento have to be regarded as entirely different SUVs.

They’re both contributing solidly to their brands’ sales efforts, too.

As at the end of February Kia was running second beyond Toyota in passenger vehicle and SUV sales with a 13 percent share, while Hyundai was in sixth place with seven percent. But of these two medium-sized SUVs, it was the Santa Fe that was the dominant performer, sitting in 10th place with 338 sales.

That was a sound result for an SUV that sells for as much as $89,990 as a Limited – which is $13,000 more than the Sorento Premium. Could that be because customers prefer the more premium look of the Santa Fe to the extent they are prepared to pay the extra dollars? Or, does the Hyundai look more premium both inside and out than the Kia Equivalent?

After looking at the photographs accompanying this article, you be the judge.

Kia prices hybrid models, what’s Hyundai’s move?

The Sorento has beaten its sister ship, the Santa Fe, in arriving with petrol-electric powertrains.

 HOW long before Hyundai here catches up with its subordinate in offering a seven-seater sports utility with electric assistance has yet to be answered – whether the parent’s ultimate equivalent will also slip under the $100,000 mark is also not yet known.

The New Zealand distributor for Kia has stolen a march on Hyundai New Zealand in releasing the Sorento in two petrol hybrid versions, one with plug-in recharging and the other mild.

The New Zealand agent for Hyundai did not respond to questions today about when its Santa Fe, the Kia’s sister ship, will arrive with the same technology, which was developed by Hyundai then shared with the sibling brand.

However, Hyundai NZ has always indicated it will also provision the Santa Fe with the very same hybrid drivetrains.

As expected, the battery-assisted editions are more expensive than the other Sorento variants Kia has here.

At $89,990, the PHEV is the most expensive Sorento ever sold here, while the hybrid also raises the stakes in its $80,990 front-drive and $82,990 all-wheel-drive formats. 

All three are in the highest-level trim Kia offers with the model, according to a brand announcement shared by media today. 

To date, the most expensive Sorento here has been a turbodiesel, also in the Premium trim, that costs $76,990. 

Kia’s pricing strategy appears to reflect that there is an unavoidable costing factor with the hybrid tech, which allies to a four-cylinder petrol engine in either of its formats.

It also raises another question: How much more the Hyundai models might cost? 

There is already pricing inequality between the diesel sister ships, most obviously when the best-kitted versions are compared.

Though the specifications are identical, and they have the same powertrains,  the Sorento Premium costs a whopping $13,000 less than the Santa Fe Limited – whose RRP is lineball with the Sorento Premium PHEV’s sticker. 

Both hybrids run a turbocharged 1.6-litre four producing 132kW/265Nm, but the electric motors and their feeder batteries are different.

As previously reported, the Sorento (and Santa Fe) PHEV runs a 13.8kWh lithium-ion battery that delivers an optimal electric-only range of 57km per charge. The PHEV’s electric motor creates 67kW and 304Nm,

The hybrid (again, in both models) has a 44kW electric motor. It also has a smaller battery, rated at 1.5kWh.

Overall claimed outputs are 195kW/350Nm for the PHEV and 169kW/350Nm for the hybrid. The diesel creates 148kW and 440Nm.

Kia claims a combined fuel economy of 1.6L/100km and cites a CO2 count of 36 grams per kilometre from the PHEV. The figures for the mild hybrid have yet to be shared, but economy could well likely be closer to the diesel’s 6.1L/100km, if not the oiler’s 159g/km optimal.

Kia’s Premium grade ticks off leather upholstery, a heads-up display, wireless phone charging, Bose audio and a comprehensive passive and active safety suite.

Palisade punches into big spend space

All but entry model is over $100k – the base offer is just $10 below – while the top spend is almost in BMW X5 territory.

SIX figure price tags attach to all but the entry edition of Hyundai’s first full-sized seven seater sports utility, the Palisade.

The brand’s announcement of the model line-up, finalised specification and pricing confirms Palisade will hold status as the most expensive vehicle any Korean maker has offered to Kiwis – the spend topping out at an almost BMW X5-hunting $119,900. 

The sharing of information also reinforces that a vehicle that offers in right-hand-drive to just Australasia at the moment is a much more expensive choice here than across the Tasman.

Hyundai NZ has three variants - Elite, Limited and Limited Nappa Edition – whereas our neighbour has two, but both countries achieve all the same choices. The difference is that a Nappe leather update that is optional to Australians packages as a specific model choice here.

The base model here is better kitted than Australia’s – here, for instance, every Palisade is on 20 inch rims while the cheapest in Australia is on 18s – but parity seems to accomplish at flagship level. There is parity in seat counts (eight in Elite, seven for Limited) engine and drivetrain choices. 

So, here, as there, a 3.8-litre petrol V6 driving the front wheels and a 2.2-litre four-cylinder turbodiesel, running through all-wheel-drive. 

The line here starts at $99,990 for the Elite petrol, with the range topping out at $119,990 for the Nappa Edition, which is only provisioned with the diesel.  

The other choices - Elite diesel, Limited petrol, and Limited diesel - are priced at $106,990, $107,990, and $114,990 respectively. 

At today’s exchange rate, Palisade RRPs (excluding, as here, delivery costs) are much lower across the Tasman.

 There the V6s sell for the equivalent of $NZ64,490 through to $NZ76,290, while diesel variants span from $NZ68,770 to $NZ80,590.

Hyundai NZ has not given explanation for its pricing strategy in material sent out today.

However, it recently reiterated to MotoringNZ that the Palisade would cost more than the SUV that has previously been its largest and most expensive offer here, the Santa Fe, which now peaks at $89,990.

The two models will likely stand comparison, given they share some common technology, though the recent refresh for Santa Fe has left it with more driver assists and a newer, more efficient version of the turbodiesel.  

The diesel Santa Fe also has dropped the orthodox eight-speed automatic that goes into Palisade for a direct-shift unit, also eight-speed.

Though both run V6s, the Santa Fe’s is a 3.6. The Palisade’s 3.8-litre, meantime, is from the Genesis luxury sedan that Hyundai NZ was unsuccessful in installing into the NZ market in 2016. The car was, then, the most expensive Korean model sold here.

Hyundai NZ cites outputs of 217kW/355Nm from the petrol and 147kW/440Nm from the diesel.

Hyundai says the Palisade’s V6 uses 10.7 litres of fuel per 100 kilometres, which is just 0.2L.100km worse that a six cylinder Santa Fe’s claimed optimal. The diesel’s economy suffers in the Palisade – Hyundai cites 7.3L/100km for the larger unit, against 6.1L/100km in a Santa Fe. 

Palisade’s size doesn’t reflect in it being brawnier for towing – quite the opposite, in fact. Towing is capped at 2200kg, whereas new Santa Fe can tow 2500kg.

 The eight-seater has two separate seats up front then two bench seat rows behind and the seven-seater provides with a bench in the very back and otherwise has captains’ chairs. 

The entry-level Palisade Elite comes with a 10.25 touchscreen, 12-speaker Infinity audio, motorised tailgate, heads-up display, three-zone climate, leather appointments, and 20-inch wheels.

The full SmartSense safety suite is also standard, inclusive of stop-go radar cruise control, lane keeping and lane following, and more.

There’s no ANCAP safety rating yet, but it’s unclear if it will achieve a four, or five-star rating with the lack of a centre airbag, deemed a new requirement by some manufacturers to achieve top safety marks.

Palisade was originally made for two big left-hand-drive markets, North America and the Middle East. It was re-engineered into right-hand-drive after Australia petitioned for it to be reconfigured.

Hyundai subordinate brand Kia also has a model based off the Palisade, but there is no likelihood of that car, called the Telluride, challenging the same turf, as Sorento does against Santa Fe, as there are no plans to make Kia’s biggest model in right-hand-drive.

 “The all-new Hyundai Palisade has a certain presence about it, making it worthy of Hyundai’s flagship SUV. Palisade indulges on every level – from space to connectivity to capability, all packaged in a cutting-edge design,” says Hyundai New Zealand General Manager, Andy Sinclair.

“This new upper-large SUV is the ultimate vehicle for practical, comfortable daily use, as well as open road adventures.”

Diesel only for Sorento’s start

Kindred Koreans the Kia Sorento and Hyundai Santa Fe remain in a race to reach New Zealand. Which will be first with a breakthrough hybrid drivetrain?

Europe has first dibs on these Kia Sorento hybrids heading down the production line.

FACTORY determination to give Europe priority means headline-making high-tech hybrid petrol drivetrains will not include on the launch menu for Kia’s Sorento here.

This has been made clear in additional information provisioned in the wake of a recent media update about the car from the New Zealand distributor.

The extra comment confirms the model’s local release is running late, as result of the factory having retuned production to favour larger more important, left-hand-drive markets, but also reiterates the model will be here before year-end, though in respect to actual timing the only comment is “fourth quarter.”

Nonetheless, Kia NZ opened the order book on August 3 and has advised potential customers to lodge their interest on a dedicated web channel. 

The Auckland-sited make has not discounted getting the hybrid powertrains, according to the information received, but when is not clear. 

“The hybrid only just went into production recently in Korea and Europe has first dibs of initial supplies.”

The petrol-electric units format in mild and plug-in recharged formats and marry to a 1.6-litre petrol engine, and Hyundai New Zealand is also chasing them for Sorento’s sister ship, the Santa Fe, which is also arriving here soon in an altered 2021 guise.

the updated Sorento (above) and Sante Fe (below) move to a new platform and adopt fresh technologies.

The hybrids give the brands opportunity to retire the long-serving 2.4-litre four-cylinder engine but the cars still configure with a 3.5-litre V6 engine, though the latter has not featured in the NZ spec for some time.

The conjoined brands international view is that the hybrid units have potential to ultimately become the key choice for the seven-seater sports utilities, on strength of their performance and efficiency.

In June Hyundai New Zealand’s boss, Andy Sinclair, expressed particular enthusiasm for the powertrains, seeing them as a key factor in elevating Santa Fe’s status, particularly as a foil for the Toyota Highlander, which will become a hybrid model when it arrives in a new generation next year.

“We’d definitely take hybrid. I think it is very important to give our customers a choice,” Sinclair said at the time.

 The Sorento and Santa Fe still continue with the 2.2-litre turbodiesel that’s been the core choice for the past three generations of both lines. It has a new fuel injection system and improved internal components, which help to reduce the engine’s friction and improve fuel economy. Power is 148kW and torque stands at 440Nm.

It mates to a new eight-speed dual-clutch automatic gearbox, called Smartstream. A video about how this operates is attached today. 

The information relating to Kia’s strategy also says it has been affected by supply constraints from the ongoing effects of Covid19 that are being shaken out. 

“So shortages of some models are inevitable, but Kia is working hard to smooth these out.

“The run-out of current Sorento is going well and should be pretty well exhausted as the new model arrives, so timing shouldn’t be too much of an issue there. Always a bit of a balancing act, regardless of the market conditions.”

The new Sorento marketing programme that started on Monday is to build awareness of the new model ahead of its arrival and elicit forward orders, much like Kia did very successfully with the Seltos last year, the information states. 

the hybrid drivetrain, seen here in a Sorento, is a big pitch by the conjoined Korean makes.

The 1.6-litre is the smallest-capacity engine yet for the Santa Fe and Sorento yet is hardly a weakling, being turbocharged. Though efficiency data has yet to be released, its maker – Hyundai, of course - has indicated a huge improvement in respect to economy and emissions. 

The unit has been designed expressly to work in a hybrid setting and initially comes in a ‘mild’ format, outputting 169kW. The plug-in rechargeable format has even more oomph. It swaps out the 1.49kWh lithium ion battery for a 13.9kWh unit that can be replenished off household mains or a fast charger.

The PHEV model’s electric motor makes 97kW in isolation, but the drivetrain’s combined maximum output is 194kW and 350Nm of torque.

Both hybrid powertrains are hitched to a newly developed six-speed automatic transmission.

They feature a new low-pressure exhaust gas recirculation system and continuously variable valve timing, which Hyundai claims improves fuel efficiency by five percent and decreases emissions by 12 percent in its own right.

The hybrids also have the same four-wheel-drive system as the diesel, but are also being built in front-drive format.

The models’ all-wheel drive now takes a terrain mode selector, which offers specific setups for snow, gravel and mud. The drivetrain also comes with three driving modes – Eco, Comfort and Sport – which can deactivate drive to the rear axle to improve fuel efficiency or distribute the engine’s torque across the  axles for extra stability, sending either 35 percent or 50 percent of the engine’s power to the rear wheels.

kia sorento (above) and Hyundai Santa Fe (below). Which do you prefer?

The new models are easily picked in the streetscape, with much updated styling for each. What is not so obvious is that they have switched to a completely different platform to that underpinning the outgoing cars, this being a platform developed for a Hyundai Sonata sedan sold in the United States and China. The footprint has grown slightly, but more importantly the change unlocks additional interior room.

The national distributors have yet to provision specification details however some inkling about what’s coming, at least for Sorento, can likely be gleaned from detail shared out of Australia, where the car is launching in a couple of weeks.

The line there spans four derivatives. Standard fare includes a “segment-first” front centre side airbag, between driver and passenger. A 10.25 inch touchscreen with Apple CarPlay, Android Auto and Multi Connection Bluetooth also configures. Australia’s flagship, called GT-Line, represents with a 12.3 inch digital instrument cluster, Blind Spot View Monitor, a shift-by-wire dial instead of a gear lever and remote smart parking assist.

Santa Fe for an electric age?

Hyundai’s local distributor is keen on the hybrid petrol drivetrains confirmed for the next-generation edition of its popular sports utility.

TM Santa Fe is earmarked for a last quarter arrival here, but nothing’s concrete yet.

MILD hybrid and plug-in hybrid petrol powerplants will fuel Hyundai New Zealand’s ambition with the updated Santa Fe coming later this year.

Assuming, at least, that brand boss Andy Sinclair’s wish list to include those 1.6-litre powerplants alongside a new version of the 2.2-litre turbodiesel that’s been the core choice for the past three generations is fulfilled by Seoul head office.

Hyundai New Zealand’s general manager says he definitely can see merit in taking his vehicle in a battery-supported direction, and not just because that’s where a big rival – Toyota Highlander – will wholly commit in a new-generation line coming early next year.

“We’d definitely take hybrid. I think it is very important to give our customers a choice.

the new 1.6-litre is designed to marry with hybrid technology

“I think it’s great to offer different drivetrains. And being a market leader with electric models already, anything that is available in that format we’d be keen to look at.

“We’re absolutely keen … if it’s available. There is no confirmation yet. Until we get to the final part of actually having spec and price available to us – which will be quite close to the (new model’s) release.”

The car’s release timing is also fluid, thanks to the impact of Covid-19 on car making in South Korea.

All Sinclair can say at the moment is that he expects to have it here by “quarter four.” All going well.

“With Covid-19 a lot of production schedules have understandably changed and because Covid is still strong overseas it has potential for more change, so we really don’t know.”

One likely outcome from the assembly line holdups created by coronavirus closing the Hyundai Group factories and restricting supply of vital components which they outsource from – would you believe – specialists based around Wuhan, in China, is that the Santa Fe might now beat its Kia equivalent to market.

The original gameplan that gave the Sorento a clear head start – which is why the current edition of Kia’s car is in a runout phase that Santa Fe has yet to enter – is now derailed, according to industry informants. Their understanding is that Hyundai sub-brand’s factory having retuned its production to favour larger more important, left-hand-drive markets has pushed Sorento’s local introduction back significantly.

Sinclair said that development was news to him. “My understanding was that it would be out before the Santa Fe.” Not that was important. “We don’t plan around other brands so it never really came into the discussion.”

Having revealed the next Santa Fe’s new look and something about its specification in February, Hyundai has now chosen to release much more detail about the drivetrains.

News about the four-cylinder 2.2-litre diesel is that it has a new fuel injection system and improved internal components, which help to reduce the engine’s friction and improve fuel economy. It mates to a new eight-speed dual-clutch automatic gearbox.

The 1.6-litre is the smallest-capacity engine yet for into the SUV and might seem a world away from the V6 or even 2.4-litre four-cylinder petrols that have powered this model in the past.

Yet the new until hardly a weakling, being turbocharged and though efficiency data has yet to be released, Hyundai has indicated a huge improvement in respect to economy and emissions.

The unit has been designed expressly to work in a hybrid setting and initially comes in a ‘mild’ format, outputting 169kW. This will be in production from the start but will joined next year by the plug-in rechargeable format, which swaps out the 1.49kWh lithium ion battery for a 13.9kWh unit that can be replenished off household mains or a fast charger. The PHEV model’s electric motor makes 97kW in isolation, but the drivetrain’s combined maximum output is 194kW and 350Nm of torque.

Both hybrid powertrains are hitched to a newly developed six-speed automatic transmission, which Hyundai says is both smoother and more fuel efficient than the previous model’s gearbox.

The two engines also feature a new low-pressure exhaust gas recirculation system and continuously variable valve timing, which Hyundai claims improves fuel efficiency by five percent and decreases emissions by 12 percent in its own right.

The hybrids also have the same four-wheel-drive system as the diesel, but are also being built in front-drive format.

The all-wheel drive now takes a terrain mode selector, which offers specific setups for snow, gravel and mud. The drivetrain also comes with three driving modes – Eco, Comfort and Sport – which can deactivate drive to the rear axle to improve fuel efficiency or distribute the engine’s torque across the SUV’s axles for extra stability, sending either 35 percent or 50 percent of the engine’s power to the rear wheels.

The new model is easily picked in the streetscape. What is not so obvious is that it has switched to a completely different platform to that underpinning today’s car. It is going to a platform developed for a Sonata sedan sold in the United States and China.

Due to the platform switch, the Santa Fe has increased in size. It’s 15mm longer, 10mm wider and 5mm taller than the model it replaces, with dimensions of 4785mm, 1900mm and 1685mm respectively. Hyundai says this has unlocked more space in the cabin for passengers, adding an extra 34mm of legroom for rear-seat occupants.

It would seem improbable that the major changes won’t avoid a price impact, but Sinclair says that the current flagship Limited diesel, a $83,990 proposition, firmly holding as the most popular version sold suggests consumers perceive Hyundai as a premium brand.

Santa Fe’s pricing potentially points to the next-size-up Palisade sports utility, an eight-seater that arrives at year-end, standing good chance of becoming the first Hyundai to price above $100,000.

Sinclair would not be drawn on that, but acknowledged “it will take us into a new pricing territory, there’s no doubt. But just what that will be, I don’t know. We have not got any indication from HMC (Hyundai Motor Company) on price.”

So, is comfortable with the prospect? “Well, our biggest-selling Santa Fe is our most expensive one. That’s a fact. Hyundai is a brand that has a premium over Japanese brands. Our customers can see our quality.”